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SPARKWAVE
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4 shanbeh suri
Mar 17th, 2009, 7:10amIs jumping over fire an Arian thing to do? Are all pure arians going to celebrate this event? or this is just another iranian cultural event and we all should make sure that we dont import it to our beloved country afghanistan.
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Abu-Sayed

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Reply #1 –Mar 17th, 2009, 7:22am  Becauseit is an Aryan tradition and is – except among those who spent some time in Iran – totally unknown to “Afghans”, you should make sure that it does not become established in theun-Aryannation “Afghanistan”.Kurds celebrating Nowruz in Turkey:”Chahrshanba Suri” in the Safavid Empire:”Chahrshanba Suri” in Central Asia:And guess what …”Osterfeuer” (“Easter Fire”) in Germany:
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JKabuli
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Reply #2 –Mar 17th, 2009, 7:24amLooks like a fun ritual!!!!
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Shaakh-
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Reply #3 –Mar 17th, 2009, 9:37am  Quote from SPARKWAVE on Mar 17th, 2009, 7:10am:Is jumping over fire an Arian thing to do? Are all pure arians going to celebrate this event? or this is just another iranian cultural event and we all should make sure that we dont import it to our beloved country afghanistan.that is an Aryan tradition that was banned or blamed in Afghanistan as anti-Islamic and was branded as Fire-worshipping.
it should be practiced again and has nothing exclusively and only with today’s Iranian.

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Abu-Sayed

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Reply #5 –Mar 17th, 2009, 10:20am  Because of the “Religion of Peace”Or do you know any Zoroastrians who do that to themselves or to their wives?!
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BazKhan
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Reply #6 –Mar 17th, 2009, 1:43pm  Quote from Abu-Sayed on Mar 17th, 2009, 10:20am:
Because of the “Religion of Peace”Wrong,Actually historic facts tell us it is quite the opposite: The religion (Islam) gave the woman Rights – including the right
for living, because  in Saudi Arabia people used to burry alive their new-born girls because of they were ashamed….Until late 19 century, in Europe and elsewhere,  women wers used as personal property or even cattle …,It was Islam that gave the Rights (full and unquestionable rights) to Women.So dear grand-son of parchami/akhundi Balkhi now in services of Jahuds, it is not because of religion, but because of the savage Irani culture imported to our country by people like you and other NA khaaeneen and criminals.The above facts say long: for centuries our Afghanistan was safe of immolation savagery. But since the NA has opened our country’s doors to Irani savage culture, in this case Fire-worshiping, self immolation of Afghan women (in Heart, Badakhshan, and Mazar) is exponentially on raise.The second heritage of this savage culture in Afghanistan is self-blowing, which comes form sadist-masochist seegha-e culture of self-beating, self-bleeding, self-hurting. It was based on this savagery that Irani Akhunds used to send armies of innocent children during the Iran/Irak war to walk through mine fileds wearing a key on their nick that was supposed to be the symbol of paradise key after the definite blowing of these children on anti-personal mines.

The roots of Suicide-bombing is exactly sadist/masochist Irani savage culture.

Back to the topic: No to Fire-worshiping in Afghanistan !


 

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JKabuli
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Reply #7 –Mar 17th, 2009, 2:34pm  Quote from BazKhan on Mar 17th, 2009, 1:43pm:
Quote from Abu-Sayed on Mar 17th, 2009, 10:20am:
Because of the “Religion of Peace”[size=20]Wrong,Actually historic facts tell us it is quite the opposite: The religion (Islam) gave the woman Rights – including the right
for living, because  in Saudi Arabia people used to burry alive their new-born girls because of they were ashamed….Until late 19 century, in Europe and elsewhere,  women wers used as personal property or even cattle …,It is obvious that you know nothing about women’s rights under Islam, and their situation in our country.Quote:It was Islam that gave the Rights (full and unquestionable rights) to Women.And that is why women’s testimony is worth half of that of a man in a court of law!!!

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So dear grand-son of parchami/akhundi Balkhi now in services of Jahuds, it is not because of religion, but because of the savage Irani culture imported to our country by people like you and other NA khaaeneen and criminals.

You are also ignorant of how women are treated in our society…such that some would commit suicide than to accept the abuse of men as sanctioned by Afghan traditions and Islam.

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The above facts say long: for centuries our Afghanistan was safe of immolation savagery. But since the NA has opened our country’s doors to Irani savage culture, in this case Fire-worshiping, self immolation of Afghan women (in Heart, Badakhshan, and Mazar) is exponentially on raise.

No one is wordshipping fire. On the other hand Milleti fascists like you worship ignorance…and that is much worse!!

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The second heritage of this savage culture in Afghanistan is self-blowing, which comes form sadist-masochist seegha-e culture of self-beating, self-bleeding, self-hurting. It was based on this savagery that Irani Akhunds used to send armies of innocent children during the Iran/Irak war to walk through mine fileds wearing a key on their nick that was supposed to be the symbol of paradise key after the definite blowing of these children on anti-personal mines.

It is the culture of Afghans that is backward, sick, and based on savagery. Iran has little or no influence on our people and the things you mention have nothing to do with our people. They do however are part of the Islamic culture of Iran…so primitive and barbarian Islam affects both countries.

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The roots of Suicide-bombing is exactly sadist/masochist Irani savage culture.

NO, this comes from your barbarian Arab brothers. It was unknown in our country until the Taliban and AQ brought it.

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Back to the topic: No to Fire-worshiping in Afghanistan !

First, it none of your business what people worship….

Second this post is not about “fire worship”.

This is fun ritual that comes from thousands of years ago…before the days of primitive Islamism, and is part of the celebration of the New Year…the coming of Spring.

So why dont you get an education first, and then come here and try to sound intelligent

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Reply #8 –Mar 17th, 2009, 4:14pm  Quote:It is obvious that you know nothing about women’s rights under Islam…Let me guess who know about Islam! Someone who was PDPA, who was invloved with the NA in puting fuel on fire the of civili war 1992-96, and who eats welfare checks in the West. I mean only Mullah-JKabuli like guys know about Ilsam !

 

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Reply #9 –Mar 17th, 2009, 9:03pmBazK(O)na,
how more stupid you can ge??
these two different topic has no relation to eachother.
stay as ghoul as you are for ever.
and, btw, how much do you hate NawRooz??

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BazKhan
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Reply #10 –Mar 17th, 2009, 9:26pm  Quote from Shaakh- on Mar 17th, 2009, 9:03pm:and, btw, how much do you hate NawRooz??Dear Shaash,Why should I hate Naw Ruz if it is celebrated in a civilzed manner and with civilized people – not with this sadist-masochist safawid culture that only push its followers to burn themselves and to blow themselves.I don’t know about what kind of kun-paaragi you do in Tajikistan now that you get rivers of petro-dollars from IRani Akhunds, but WE in Afghanistan celebrate Naw-Ruz as it should be celebrated. We don’t burn ourselves, we don’t bleed ourselves, we don’t bleed ourselves, we simply enjoy the first days of spring.No joke, but I wonder why do you guys love these savageries!

 

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Reply #11 –Mar 18th, 2009, 1:56pm  Quote from BazKhan on Mar 17th, 2009, 9:26pm:Why should I hate Naw Ruz if it is celebrated in a civilzed manner and with civilized people – not with this sadist-masochist safawid culture that only push its followers to burn themselves and to blow themselves.Because you are a Pashtun, and Nowruz is totally alien to Pashtun identity and culture. That’s exactly the reason why Pashtuns do not celebrate Nowruz and why the Pashtun government from 1994 – 2001 (popularly known as “Taliban”) banned Nowruz.Quote:I don’t know about what kind of kun-paaragi you do in Tajikistan now that you get rivers of petro-dollars from IRani Akhunds, but WE in Afghanistan celebrate Naw-Ruz as it should be celebrated.”You” people do not celebrate Nowruz at all … and you have no idea how to celebrate it. You do not know its meaning, its history, or anything else related to it. You do not even have a word for “Nowruz” in your language. You have just borrowed it, like Turks and others.Quote:

We don’t burn ourselves, we don’t bleed ourselves, we don’t bleed ourselves, we simply enjoy the first days of spring.

Actually, you do. Besides that, you are bloody terrorists, child molesters, and child murderers. 99% of all terrorists world wide are either from your people, or seek refuge in your tribal lands. You people make up 99% of the detainees in Guantanamo, Bagram, and elsewhere. You people are responsible for the continuing terror in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and elsewhere. You do not only blow up yourselves in kindergartens, schools and other civilian places, you also destroy historical artifacts and shrines. You kill women, burn them, beat them. And it is a firm and traditional belief among you people that women have the sole purpose to give brith, while “men are for pleasure” – 99% of you people are gay.

In 2 days, the entire civilized world will celebrate Nowruz, the Iranian New Year.

And what will you do?

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Kolsterbach
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Reply #12 –Mar 18th, 2009, 5:35pm  Don’t worry about bonfires being imported to Afghanistan, Sparkwave.  According to the latest reports there is once again a run on the trees.  Lumber is precious and it’s being stolen and shipped out of the country.  I’m just grateful that Afghanistan now has its own cement industry.BTW, it’s quite ironic that your user name is Sparkwave and you started this thread.Tended fires are popular in most cultures.  It’s usually not a religious thing unless you go back to the days of Moab and we know what happened to the Moabites.